The man who built a spyware empire says it’s time to come out of the shadows

The CEO of NSO says his industry is full of companies trying to avoid scrutiny. Ten years after founding the NSO, the makers of Pegasus, one of the most famous spyware in the world, Hulio made the rare decision to speak about the company. Talking to Patrick Howell O'Neill, he discusses the intelligence industry, what transparency could look like for spyware companies and he reveals why speaking out is the "most important thing the industry can do now."